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Published Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:00 AM
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Trademarc is one of the authors of a ravenous diss track that has been circulating the web for the past few weeks. In the song by East Coast Avengers (Trademarc, Esoteric, DC the Midi Alien), the Massachusetts bred MC flings around scathing lyrics like, “I’ll stalk your house, knock you out, gag your mouth, drag you out…,” and, “F**k making fun of you in punchlines/I’d rather kill your family in front of you by lunchtime.”

But the target is not some other rapper, it’s actually infamous conservative pundit Bill O’Reilly and the song, available on their album Poison Planet, is called “Kill Bill O’Reilly.” Needless to say, it has ruffled some feathers.


AllHipHop.com:
You got quite a song buzzing’ out there. What about Bill O’Reilly gets to you?

Trademarc: He’s a bully and will air footage in order to make himself look better. He’s one of the most ignorant human beings and that song is a stand against that in general.




AllHipHop.com: Are you comfortable with people having this song as their first introduction to you?

Trademarc: Yeah absolutely. It lets people know we’re not afraid to stay away from things that a lot of people wanna say, but won’t say.

AllHipHop.com: Concerning the different media outlets, how big has the controversy been?

Trademarc: There were some serious threats. Michelle Malkin was one of the first people who came after us. She was totally stereotyping saying, “Don’t you have a plane to steal, don’t you have women to slap, and children to neglect?” But for the most part, people didn’t say anything about us aside from these political sites, who were getting down right racist and nasty. They figured that we were Black and we weren’t white. So they were attacking us on that level and it was kinda funny to see their reaction. They were calling us monkeys and calling us all these names without anything viable to go with it.




AllHipHop.com: Have you got any invitations—either TV or radio—to explain the song?

Trademarc: We were on a public radio station here. It went actually pretty well. The woman asked me to explain my point of view, but then again we got phone calls of people wanting our real names so they could come and fight us. I told them, “You know where I am right now. I’m on the radio station.” They were stereotypically trying to lump us into a group and they were wrong. They thought it was three mindless savages making a song, [but] we’re intellectual people that know the score, are well read, and can back the stuff up.

AllHipHop.com:
Are your political views liberal in general?

http://www.allhiphop.com/photos/blog_pictures/images/20708533/421x375.aspxTrademarc: I would say technically more liberal, but I would also say if I was gonna label myself, probably independent. Those labels separate people and that’s exactly what the government wants. They want people to separate themselves because they’re easy to control. The same thing with organized religion. As soon as people choose religion, they already separate themselves from each other. It’s like culture, color, religion, and now it’s Democrat and Republican. As soon as they separate you, they already won a small battle.

AllHipHop.com: How did you come up with the concept for the video?

Trademarc: Brainstorming. The guy that did the video had done some creative stuff before. I wanted to keep it kind of Sin City-ish. We didn’t want to get too flashy. We wanted to keep it gritty. We didn’t have a lot of creative control over that. We added a couple of things, but it was mostly the guy we worked with.

AllHipHop.com:
Did you feel comfortable with having the Bill O’Reilly stand-in in the video?

Trademarc: It’s funny, he didn’t really look like him. No one said anything and he was cool guy too. It was fun to do.

AllHipHop.com: If you were to run into the real Bill O’Reilly man-to-man, what would you say to him?

Trademarc: Just stop. I know everybody has a right to free speech, but just stop. Stop with the lies. If you’re gonna be on TV, respect the integrity of what you should be doing which is journalism.




AllHipHop.com:
How are you gonna use the controversy from the single to fuel the album?

Trademarc: We gonna plug it away with politic tracks. We got some stuff lined up we’re hoping will blow people’s socks off more. We can have some hardcore Hip-Hop bangers that let up on the politic stuff so that the underground heads can get into but we also have the politic side of us, which is a huge side of what we are. We’re representing the people who want change and I think that that it’s a wide demographic. That’s not just Hip-Hop kids, that’s not just 40 year olds that have 401Ks and worry about retirement.

A lot of people hate Bill O’Reilly too. A lot of people call him out—Jay-Z, Luda… it’s good to see these major artists doing stuff. I think Young Jeezy’s new record has a lot of political stuff on it.  I haven’t had a chance to peep it yet, you know it’s really a good thing to see that, hopefully we’ll embrace that too and we’ll see a little less singing and dancing a little more political stuff.

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November 20, 2008 11:20 AM
 

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November 20, 2008 11:24 AM
 

CientifiQ said:

I am all with these cats for real. I heard the song and its dope. Plus I agree with what he said as far as religion and politics. They do cause too much seperation. Everyone screams "we are all people, treat everyone equal blahzay blahzay" but thats not the case. You got 100 different religions and there is only one God. He hit it right on when he said the government wants seperation. Peace to you family......Keep dropping that "make you think" Hip-Hop...We need a lot more of it.


CientifiQ
November 20, 2008 11:35 AM
 

CientifiQ said:

Oh yeah I almost forgot. Fuck Bill Oreilly......

CientifiQ
November 20, 2008 11:52 AM
 

BKsDrDRE said:

Yo who made that beat? that sh*t is bananas!
November 20, 2008 11:58 AM
 

doobie-ashtray said:

haha.. i want to see bill invite these guys on.. you know he will

sidenote - when camron was on his show, that was some funny stuff.. youtube it.
November 20, 2008 12:23 PM
 

Trademarc of East Coast Avengers: Hunting Bill O’Reilly | FuckTheSource.com | Hip-Hop 2.0 said:

November 20, 2008 12:46 PM
 

poe said:

November 20, 2008 1:54 PM
 

rodeo0808 said:

yo tradmarc is John Cena (wwe wrestler) cousin.  
November 20, 2008 4:11 PM
 

shani said:

This song makes Hip Hop look bad.
I don't like Bill O'Reilly either. The man is a loudmouth ass.
But somebody like Al Sharpton has go toe to toe and appear on Bill O'Reilly's show and battle him calmly with his intellect and win.

These Avenger guys feed the stereotype that rappers are so emotional that the can't debate without having a temper tantrum (ironically like like Bill O'Reilly) talking about you don't like him saying stuff like Snoop a pinhead so you gonna have to kill him.

The biggest fans of Bill O'Reilly are the rap fans. As soon as he make some cute remarks he's all up on every hip hop web site.
The rest of those old white fox news guys act like we don't exist at all (but it's Obama time MF)

Plus it sounds like white rappers trying to patronize black people too much. "we'll take somebody you love to hate and attack him even worse than you would" That's the formula

If you are going to talk about killing somebody because you don't like their opinion it means you are not like Malcom who had the intelligence to calmly show them they're wrong and prove it with with intellectual skills.

Some of these white rappers like La Cosa Nostra etc. Ill Bill they feel like they got to wear tims and baseball hats and act twice as thug as your average Black rapper just to prove that the have street cred.
But you look silly doing it. Be yourself. That's why Shady was cool when he came out goofing but looked like an idiot later when he tried to wear a do rag.

And sometimes Bill O'Reilly is right that Snoop is a pin head should know better than to get caught yet again with some budda or a toolie at the airport.
Other times Bill does say some fucked up thing but is he really the main villain for Hip Hop? But notice how these dudes probably wouldn't touch Bill Cosby or Oprah like that
In my opinion Bill was right about a lot of stuff though but that's another topic.

To all of you who just like typing "fuck Bill O'Reilly" (but you love to watch his clips -the whitey you love to hate) I have a challenge for you.
Do your homework and put up some Bill O'Reilly quotes to prove what he's saying is as super evil as you think it is.
And to the rappers you might have to cut him a check because he's keeping your name in the air, helping to sell your record.

November 20, 2008 4:54 PM
 

cocacolaclassic said:

I've seen the factor.. (Which is his show for everyone that just likes to talk Sh*t.)  He challenges people and points out common sense sh*t. Some of these rappers punchlines are funner bout Oreilly but seriously gagging and dragging someone out to kill in front of their family... I don't think that has any place in music when its directed at a specific person. People can say whatever they want but i read this sh*t and stupid people just dumb as f&&k
November 20, 2008 5:07 PM
 

T-ROC said:

Why do we continue to add fuel to this idiots fire?

I mean i've learned one thing watching Barack Obama's road to the white house.

I remember watching a documentary about Tupac Shakur and in the documentary he said "I don't understand if you don't like black people. But, you will respect me as a human being."

We continue to give **** *'***** (won't even say his name) a stage to perform and he will do just that. Why do we go on his show? He is convinced there is no changing his mind.

You know the only way to change a KKK member mind? Is to make him black/asian/hispanic or whoever else he "hates." That can't happen so why stress them.

I realized something as i get older. There is no such thing as racism (yeah, i said it) there is no such thing as racism (and repeat it). Why i say that? because at this point and time in society its thought to young white kids that don't even understand what their being thought. It is the craziest thing when i see a white person in their mid 20's to mid 30's acting racist, it's like you don't even UNDERSTAND the point of racism.

Case and point. Put a 4 yr old white kid and black kid in a sand box their will play as long as you let them. Put a 14 white kid and a 14 black kid on a basketball court and THEY will play as long as you let them....so on and so forth. It will perhaps change when you get to the 24 yr old white/black kid. At that point, someone (mostly the parents of the white kid) thought him to "HATE." That is no excuse you are responsible for your OWN intelligence and that is why i call it ignorance.

I'm from NY (lived there all my life). lived in GA for a combination 3 years. I have been living in MD for the last 4 years and i tell you what i see it at least once a week. I just shake my head and smile. It's ignorance. I can go on and on. So i will brake here. Bottome line stop condoning this man give him NO AIR TIME!!
November 20, 2008 5:47 PM
 

californiason said:

trademarc=a lame as wigger! I bet my life he doesn't even watch the factor! another angry wigger...get'em bill!
November 20, 2008 5:54 PM
 

mr.201973 said:

November 20, 2008 6:20 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

I will fist fight Bill O'Reilly in the middle of the street out here on NE 23rd.  But of course he wouldn't agree to it, he's a pathetic trash talkin' stereotypin' pansy that don't want his nose broken.
November 20, 2008 8:17 PM
 

Katalyst said:

I don't have to say as much after reading the above comments.
I watched bill O'Reilly's Factor and he does go after Rapper's in Hip Hop, But he goes after us for shitty content like this.

I would say to Trademarc, If you are so disgusted with Bill why would you spend time makin idol threats about goin after his Family?
Honestly homeboy thats not political at all, that actually falls under FANATICISM.
And you speak about Religion and how divisive it can be to separate but you offer no solution to the problem, just more of the same sh*t.
I see you trynta rally the troops an make a name for ya self but it comes at the expense of OUR HIP HOP NATION,
and we cant afford you.
Go back and learn the code, cause we as Hip Hoppa's have struggled to get where we are not to look like the enemy that we are on the brink of defeating.

Nick Grammar is my name and I AM HIP HOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
November 20, 2008 8:41 PM
 

Hard Liquor said:

For Trademarc is doing his thing, going after Bill O' Reilly from the white rapper angle is quote an angle, it will never go in his favor because Fox will never have that, but its an angle.

O' Rielly is a bully, and people love him, one day some one is going to call him out on the loofa lawsuit his intern put on him, expose the out of court settlement and end this guys career as a do-gooder.
November 20, 2008 9:54 PM
 

Intelekt said:

It's strange. I agree with what's said in the interview, but not in the song. The song is overly violent and hateful, so it's defeating the purpose of trying to intellectually and intelligently debate and argue. I can understand a record like "Fuck the Police" more than this. Police were physically abusive and did a lot more shit to people than Bill O'Reilly ever did. Yeah, I don't like O'Reilly either. The crap he does and says pisses me off, but I would never even entertain the idea of dragging his family into my disses and anger. That aint cool, man. He talks a lot of shit, but he didn't beat down Rodney King. He didn't shoot and kill young men based on suspicion and just nerves (Sean Bell, etc.) He also didn't send thousands of troops to die in the Middle East over some dumb shit.
November 20, 2008 9:55 PM
 

faithwalk said:

This guy has caused so much controversy. I hope he does something positive one day.  Lord knows in this time and era we need it.

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November 21, 2008 12:16 AM
 

shani said:

Don't forget Obama respected him enough to appear on his show about 3 times in arrow.
O'Reilly might be  asshole but he's not exactly a KKK guy either.
November 21, 2008 3:34 AM
 

SEATOWNZ FINEZT said:

SHANI EAT A DICK AND I COSIGN WIT THE BIG HOMIE KILLIUMANITI, THE SONG IS HELLLA HARD IM FEELIN THIS JOINT OH AND ONCE AGAIN SHANI.. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND EAT A DICK THANKS.
November 21, 2008 6:05 AM
 

Hip Hop GM said:

The one thing I have always loved about Hip Hop is the fact that people can say what they want in songs. Some good some bad, but to say that this song makes Hip Hop look bad is a bullshit statement. At least it is original and different, what, should they have used auto-tune? Fuck outta here with that coward ass groupie shit. If these dudes were black and someone said that these niggers made a song about "Bill O" then everyone would be up in arms. That's what's wrong with these clown ass mutha fuckaz man, everybody wanna be a baller and copy what made another nigga rich but don't have their own leg to stand on. The Song is FIRE and the concept is great, Fuck Bill O with his racist ass. I loved when the white snobs thought they were black and made the racist remarks and when they found out they were white they looked stupid as shit. Learn to accept that not everybody wants to make songs about "Poppin Champagne".
November 21, 2008 7:21 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

I agree with Hip Hop GM....

oh and FUCK BILL!!!!




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November 21, 2008 8:39 AM
 

MattLee said:

@rodeo

I thought this guy looked familiar.  Basic Thuganomics!
November 21, 2008 9:25 AM
 

Katalyst said:

@ Hip Hop GM

Them using auto tune would have only changed the sound not the content of the song! What kina sh*t you on?

Furthermore your argument regarding everybody wantn to be a baller is cool if we were discussn that topic, but we aint. We are however talkin about this joint and how it effects the battle between us and them.

In my commentary I point out that we have been struggling with powers that use dirty tactics that if we would make us employ no better than them.

Papoose got a joint called 50 shots (Sean Bell)
where he just stated facts and smashed everybody involved in the injustice.

Conclusion: its good to be mad and aggressive, but without channeling that energy its going nowhere.

And I agree with having Hip Hop where both the good and the Bad exist but dont call something political when it borders on ignorant!

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November 21, 2008 9:34 AM
 

ILikezmyDro said:

I hate bill o'reilly as much as the next guy. Yeah, he is an ass that simply demands center stage for his one overriding concern. He is teaching people to become ignorant and yes that is not right. But this rapper is a moron. If you want to make a statement you completely destroy your credibility when you are saying you'll kill the man. Although i feel passionate about stopping this guy, you are only proving your own ignorance when you have to result to the use of "I'd rather kill your family...etc"... Are you serious?? get the fuck outta here dude. next time come back better
Stop Ignorance, Stop O'reilly
November 21, 2008 9:48 AM
 

Huey vs Riley said:

Songs like this is EXACTLY WHAT BILL O REILLY WANTS

He doesn't have to stereotype hiphop artists if the artists are doing it themselves!

Songs like this make it that much easier for o reilly to label hiphop as violent and ignorant... because that is exactly what this song is!

I hate o reilly as much as the next guy, but deaththreats? How would you feel if people made a song like this about obama?

Why not attack him with ARGUMENTS?

If o reilly is really that ignorant, wouldn't it be easy to highlight that aspect, point out the inconsistensies and holes in his arguments instead of replying in a manner thats even MORE ignorant?

Man these guys f*cked up, for real
November 22, 2008 12:03 PM
 

Suburban_Reject said:

well i mean, Bill O'Reilly is definitely a man who has said one stupid thing too many. he lives off of bringing a biased sense of the world to his target audience, and is thus tryna divide the people. im sure he has more sway than people'd give him credit for.

and yeah; these guys are bein' hardcore, usin rap for what rap has been used for in the past, and will be used for in the future. they're not doin some of the dumb "house negro" shit that we see far too often.

But ya know what? they're pimpin the game's what they're doin. they're 'political rappin,' but without the facts or content to make any logic or sense, like Immortal Technique or Jedi Mind Tricks (which includes Vinnie Paz, a white rapper, btw). Their interview makes a bit more sense than their song. This was quite unnecessary. Besides, Tha Trademark is the cousin of John Cena. John fuckin Cena. The man was born in Peabody, Massachusetts. All he is is a liberal elitist.

Notice how in your history books, you hear about the Liberator, and William Lloyd Garrison, and the white abolitionist movement? This country has a way of masking David Walker, or the fact that the first abolitionist magazine was an African-American one, and that the two sides were vastly different. But at the end of the day, it was the government that freed the slaves; it was the white abolitionists who are immortalized; it's John Brown who's condemned. Sure, you hear a reference of Frederick Douglass, Sojourner Truth, Tubman, etc. but the fact that there were two separate movements ongoing is lost on us.

And regrettably, I see this song as a parallel of that other movement, centuries ago. We gotta be careful.
November 23, 2008 9:32 PM
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